[gobolinux-users] Re: Java and free software
mjr at dsl.pipex.com
Thu Nov 4 16:01:14 GMT 2004
This thread is a little fractured now, after the list move, so I'll
just reply once.
I do see Bill Burdick's points, but I think it's only the competition
of *languages* which has kept Sun away from exploiting the market.
Within the Java language, competition has been slow to develop. 9
years and still so few to choose from? At the speed computing usually
develops, 9 years is almost an age.
As for the list of places with non-free software: about the only ones
I own from that list are the PC BIOS and a regular mobile phone. Even
my network router runs Linux (D-Link something or other IIRC) and I
have the source code. I avoid microwave ovens when possible and I
doubt the ancient Leyland National buses here have firmware.
On 2004-10-31 10:15:03 +0000 Mika Pesu <pmika at japo.fi> wrote:
> i dont remember how things go if you change the code. but if i
> remember right
> you need to submit changes atleast to Sun.
> but then again i dont have any needs to change the source code. [...]
Are you absolutely sure that you have never encountered and will never
encounter a bug or deficiency in Sun's Java, which could be fixed by
patching the source?
> IMO,Sun is doing everything they can to make Java more open,but not
> with the
> cost of making forking java possible or losing they own business
> around java.
> which in this case is good.
Which in this case is bad. It's funny really. Normally, businesses ask
for low barriers to entry, competition and a diverse fair market. But
not when it's their product and the law allows them a monopoly.
Unfortunately, to get that monopoly, they are restricting the users
and tying their hands.
"Irish blood, English heart, This I'm made of
There is no one on earth I'm afraid of
And I will die with both of my hands untied" (Morrissey)
I've done my time working for others for now. I'm going to try to do
what's I think is right for a while. That includes trying to help the
Protect Innovation campaign in the UK against software patenting.
MJR/slef My Opinion Only and not of any group I know
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