[gobolinux-users] A few uneasy questions...

[Viola Zoltán]

My  personal view is that, the GoboLinux is user- and beginner-friendly
distro! But for the more users should by full UTF-8 encoding, (by using the
non-english characters in the fonts in the name of files and directoryes),
and
should make a few BINARY packages speedup the base installation of
non-english users! For ekzample non-english OpenOffice (The hungarian is O.K.,
by I), the KDE-i18n for other languages, etc. And,
make binary packages for applications, which have too big time to compile
its, for ekzample Gnome, XFCE4, etc.

Zoli

2007/2/27, pp_o2 <pp_o2 at o2.pl>:
>
> On Tuesday February 27, 2007 11:11, Jonas Karlsson wrote:
> > > > a) where is cron?
> > At least there's a recipe for dcron.
> I've found it. But it doesn't allow users to run their own crontab -e!!!
> You can set users cron only from root. This feature is highly misleading
> for a
> new Gobo user if he just stepped in to the Gobo yard from other Linux
> distro.
>
> GoboLinux HAS to HAVE full feature cron daemon. Gobo is for experienced
> users
> (that's my opinion) and I won't use KDE Alarm shit to perform admin tasks.
> I
> tested it recently and nearly gone crazy for what it has been doing with
> some
> tasks e.g saving radio streams.
>
> How could you imagine Unix without cron I really don't know. :-)
>
> > As for no packages in the contrib store, there's a simple answer: no
> > packages have been submitted yet, that are compatible with the new
> > version of glibc that's shipped with GoboLinux 013. For those that
> > still use the old glibc (2.3.x) the packages can be found in the
> > "packages.old" directory on the mirrors.
>
> This information should be imprinted with BIG letters on a proper page if
> such
> will come into being.
>
> > > We do that, and then mirrors take these changes through rsync. Again,
> > > due to some problem that was not happening. I'm not able to check out
> > > all mirrors right now, but I'd appreciate if someone else could take
> > > the time to check which mirrors are broken, etc.
>
> I was not for checking mirrors. I was for correct and valid information on
> GoboWiki pages.
>
> > > > GenRecipeStore: Unable to create
> > >
> > > This script has been replaced by PackRecipe instead, which is
> > > automatically called every time a new recipe is compiled. The
> > > documentation is probably out of date because there isn't too much
> > > people contributing to the wiki. We're really very bad on the number
> > > of active people doing some real work. Sad but true.
> >
> > Maybe we should have a wiki drive soon again?
>
> Wiki needs total revamp. It's bloated and full of academic texts. Some
> texts
> are old or too old, some are too talkative or narrated. Who has the time
> to
> read it to the end only to find out he's no more enlightened then at the
> beginning.
>
> > > > I've come here to salient point - why GoboLinux has such small
> > > > user/contribution base? Despite the very good idea which brought
> > > > GoboLinux into day light.
> > >
> > > I don't know. Sometimes I think people are just lazy, or aren't really
> > > very commited on helping, or just don't have enough time/interest to
> > > dedicate to this project.
>
> In my opinion that's not the correct answer. Learning Gobo intrinsic
> structure
> takes too long due to the lack of succinct documentation. I've read some
> of
> your texts "from first pages" so I can say - they are of no use for new
> users. Only makes the subject less understandable The texts should explain
> in
> short note what, why, where, and when. If one would like to broaden ones
> knowledge some links should lead him as an option to a "vault of wisdom".
>
> > One of the problems I see is that GoboLinux looks like a userfriendly
> > distribution, as it has a directory tree that's easy to understand to
> > people not used to *nix. However GoboLinux is closer to Linux From
> > Scratch, which is a hardcore linux "distro". At the same time many
> > hardcore users have a hard time gettin along with a distro not using
> > fhs. THerefore the target group is missed and many users we get become
> > disapointed that GoboLinux is so imature/hard to learn.
>
> Yes, but shouldn't the point be taken into consideration right now until
> Gobo
> will be too complex to easily change anything in terms of documentation or
> internal structure? The earlier this aspect of GoboLinux is administered and
> revamped (if you say it should be) the sooner less people will leave the
> distro deeply disapointed.
>
> Regards,
> Przemysław Pawełczyk
>
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