[gobolinux-users] A few uneasy questions...

[pp_o2]

On Tuesday February 27, 2007 14:21, Jonas Karlsson wrote:
> ]crontab -e dd
> crontab: only the superuser may specify a user
>
> I also get an error as you can see. But if I drop the 'dd' string I
> can edit the current users crontab.

That's the problem. I was accustomed to the right behavior of cron in 
other systems like you are. But here I stumbled on a wall. I'll see to 
the cron myself then.

> Ok, there's no link on the recipe page, but I think you are
> overreacting as you got plenty of information on how to find binary
> packages, on the packages page. You got the links to all the
> repositories, a search form and a rsync URI.

The whole matter looks like the perrenial problem of developers' view 
versus users' view. What for you is obvious for end users not. You have 
developed your new habits, ways of doing (e.g.finding) things etc. Me 
not yet. Perhaps after spending 365 days with GoboLinux I would answer 
myself like you did, but not today.

But more important is if you really WANT to broaden user base. That 
statement sets the goal for other actions. You see the system from 
within, me from outside. I say, every, every small piece of the puzzle 
named distro has its meaning in the whole picture. If you fail in one 
it'll spoil the picture of your work - either you'll hear "good, fine 
distro, I'll try it", or "errr..., well..., I don't like it".

> As in updating recipes and packages? That's enough for keeping enough
> of us busy. Lucas is doing one heck of a job with that, as well as
> developing. What do you expect from the developers? All packages
> updated as well as full development speed _as well as_ full
> documentation of everything? We're only doing this in our spare time,
> and have actuall jobs (or school work).

I do not accuse I only share my views what's maybe wrong from my point 
of view. I hugely appreciate your work and believe me I do see your 
great effort as well as I do see your shortcomings.

> Once again I can't follow you. In what way do we lack in information
> to the users of GoboLinux? Wich system development isn't presented?
> As I said, this distro is for advanced users. They should be able to
> take care of them self.

What a "development" means to you? And your last words tell me that you 
do NOT WANT to broaden user base. I can interpret them as: if I am 
knowledgable enough and I want to use Gobo I can do it, otherwise "stop 
meddling in other's affairs"? ;-)

To end the subject I must add that for me helping in development 
contains testing, bug reporting, and idea sharing. It can't be done 
without participating users. Don't scare them "Gobo is for advanced 
users", the more so the Live CD Gobo is complete and ready to use 
distribution. I didn't see a sign "Attention: Gobo is for Gobo users. 
Faint-hearted are not allowed" looking over a hedge into Gobo yard from 
other Linux worlds:-)

Regards,
Przemysław Pawełczyk