[gobolinux-users] Freshen couldn't better prepare update?

[Michael Homer]

On 7/16/07, Daniele Maccari <gobo.users at gmail.com> wrote:
> Michael Homer ha scritto:
> > On 7/15/07, rubisher <rubisher at scarlet.be> wrote:
> >
> >> Michael Homer wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 7/15/07, rubisher <rubisher at scarlet.be> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hello Michael,
> >>>>
> >>>> 2 or 3 weeks ago I launch the upgrade of kde with:
> >>>>
> >>>> # Freshen -U KDE-Utils KDE-Libs KDE-PIM KDE-Graphics KDE-Multimedia
> >>>>
> >>>> (Freshen release 2.2.2-r1)
> >>>>
> >>>> Among dependencies there was new Xorg which is also a dependency of other kde's dependencies, I so stopped to count the
> >>>> number of time Freshen asked me if I want to upgrade Xorg even thought I already accepted at the first time.
> >>>>
> >>> Freshen never asks you at all. Compile might, but it shouldn't if that
> >>> version of X has already been installed. Which should have happened at
> >>> the beginning of the Freshen run if it wasn't already met. If X failed
> >>> to install at that point, that's the problem, and you should stop and
> >>> see why.
> >>>
> >> mmm, may be did I tell to skip it the first time Freshen put the question (I don't remember)?
> >>
> > It doesn't put the question. Compile might, but only if it isn't
> > satisfied at that point, which it definitely should be.
> >
> >>> What does just `Freshen  KDE-Utils KDE-Libs KDE-PIM
> >>> KDE-Graphics KDE-Multimedia` give you?
> >>>
> >> Well as far as kde 3.5.6 seems to be broken to me, I can revert this update and retry the operation.
> >> I will come back as soon as I can with logs.
> >>
> > You don't need to compile, just give the output of that command.
> > Freshen --debug might help too.
> >
> >>> `ls -l /Programs/Xorg`?
> >>>
> >> No pb:
> >> # ls -l /Programs/Xorg/
> >> total 12
> >> drwxr-xr-x 9 Brother Brother 4096 2007-06-03 11:23 7.1
> >> drwxrwxr-x 9 Brother Brother 4096 2007-04-07 20:31 7.2
> >> lrwxrwxrwx 1 Brother Brother    3 2007-06-30 19:10 Current -> 7.2
> >> drwxr-xr-x 3 Brother Brother 4096 2007-06-03 11:23 Settings
> >> lrwxrwxrwx 1 Brother Brother   16 2007-06-03 14:51 Variable -> /System/Variable
> >>
> > So Xorg 7.2 is installed and symlinked properly... Freshen definitely
> > won't try to install it, and Compile/InstallPackage shouldn't be
> > trying either (plus, they're called with --no-dependencies, they
> > shouldn't even be looking). That's puzzling. I think we'll need some
> > more logs of what actually goes on to solve this.
> > -Michael
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> I think there's a misunderstanding. What we (or at least I am) are
> saying is that when updating a package and a dependecy update is needed
> by more than one package (so the dependecy is not installed yet, that's
> the point), every and each package which depends on it will ask for the
> installation of the update, even if we already answer yes the first
> time. For example:
> xxx require xorg as a dependency: compile? yes
> ...
> ...
> ...
> yyy (which is a dependecy of xxx) require xorg as a dependency: compile? no
Dependencies should be resolved before that point, and Compile's
dependency-handling shouldn't ever be being used. That's why I want
the output of plain `Freshen` to see how it's ordering things. Xorg
should be listed ahead of everything that depends on it, or not at all
if it's already up-to-date. If it's already up-to-date at the point
something that requires it is Compiled, Compile should see that it's
met and not try to install it again.

Regardless of how they're ordered, Compile is explicitly instructed
not to resolve dependencies, so it shouldn't be prompting you for it
at all (it's both in --batch mode and with --no-dependencies). There
may be a Compile bug making it ignore those flags, although I wasn't
able to trigger it when I did a couple of experiments.
-Michael