[gobolinux-users] Gobolinux 016 Final question

Mr. Fossil Codger violazoli at gmail.com
Wed Nov 23 06:30:30 NZDT 2016

Dear Hisham, and other developers,
I fully agree this answer/reply! This is also precise my opinion! The only
one difference is, that I prefer the DWM window manager, but this is not a
big problem for me, because it is easy to compile and install. In these
days I use my own "distro" based on the LFS, but insomuch as I have a
second 64 bit laptop too, for "auxiliary machine", and it has now Ubuntu
(but I really don't like those distros which labeled as "*buntu"...), when
GoboLinux community will release the final version, I'll install it to that
my laptop. And BIG THANKS, seriously, because this distro has NO any
annoying "eyecandy"! I need a working X window system, but no any file
manager (MC forever! but I can live even without MC), I hate the automount,
the sound signals, background images, animated buttons (actually, I do not
need ANY icons, buttons... not even menus...). I need a good
terminal-emulator which knows the UNICODE characters too, in UTF-8
encoding, and no any other difficulty.
If I need something extra, I can install it, or if my need isn't available
in a software repository, then I write the needed program or script. (For
example, the statusbar to the DWM...).
There are already MANY, NUMEROUS distros for beginners. It is totally
superfluous to create a new, designed for their (infinite...) claims!
WELL, I THINK, HISHAM, MY FRIEND—BE RIGHT! Fully, totally, beyond doubt!
Big thanks for him, and for everybody others, in the developing group!


2016-11-22 16:50 GMT+00:00 Hisham Muhammad <hisham at gobolinux.org>:

> On 22 November 2016 at 14:33, Lucas C. Villa Real <lucasvr at gobolinux.org>
> wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 2:11 PM, Trans <transfire at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> What file manger did you guys decide on?
> >
> > CoreUtils. :)
> Expanding on Lucas' fun (but correct ;) ) answer: we decided we will
> not bundle a file manager in GoboLinux 016. The feedback we got during
> the pre-release stage confirmed to us that this is the right decision.
> This is the reasoning:
> * We don't have the resources to develop a full modern desktop
> experience for end-users. The development of GoboLinux has been
> hindered for years by concerns with polishing the desktop UI when the
> core system was stable. The development of each release took longer
> and longer time because of tweaks in the desktop packages, and the
> project was seriously hurt because of this. Most Linux distros
> nowadays are essentially "taking an existing distro and developing a
> desktop on top of it". On GoboLinux, we develop our own core and our
> own OS design ideas, so we'd rather focus on it. The goal of GoboLinux
> is a good core design, and not necessarily ease-of-use.
> * No, just shipping a "lightweight file manager" does not cut it.
> Because once a user has a file manager, they want auto-mounting, then
> they want mime-types for apps for contextual menu actions, then
> notifications, and before you know it they ask for auto-updates. Trust
> us, we've been through all that.
> * At this point, GoboLinux is a distribution that can only be used
> effectively when the user is proficient with the terminal. Requiring
> terminal use is not an "elitist" move, but it does establish the basic
> prerequisites. For comparison, Arch Linux doesn't even include an
> installer.
> * A user who is able to use GoboLinux with a terminal and who wants a
> graphical file manager, can easily compile one.
> Sorry for the disappointing answer, but I think it's informative to
> make our design goals clear.
> -- Hisham
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